Fred Stevenson Norcross1,2

M, #15182, b. 14 July 1884, d. 4 April 1965
Last Edited29 Dec 2012
     Fred was born on 14 July 1884 in Menominee, Menominee County, Michigan, USAG.2 Fred married Elizabeth Jackman on 7 November 1923 in Menominee, Menominee County, Michigan, USAG.1,3,4 He died on 4 April 1965 in Ann Arbor, Menominee County, Michigan, USAG, at age 80.5,2 Fred Stevenson Norcross was buried on 7 April 1965 in Riverside Cemetery, Menominee, Menominee County, Michigan, USAG.6,2

Family

Elizabeth Jackman b. 28 May 1893, d. 13 Jan 1973

Citations

  1. [S604] Marshall Davies lloyd, Family of Marshall Davies Lloyd (n.p.: Gencircles Database, unknown publish date), Elizabeth remarried in 1923.; Elizabeth Jackman.
  2. [S4199] Find A Grave memorial page , Find A Grave, Find A Grave search page; "A database submitted by individuals supposedly of cemetery interments, often from grave memorials or cemetery records and often supplemented by other information, generally without identification of the sources except when a tombstone photo is included."; cited as "Find A Grave., http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
  3. [S4375] Michigan Marriages, 1868-1925, online Michigan Marriages, 1868-1925 -Norcross - Jackman, Fred S. Jr. Norcross and Elizabeth J. Jackman Lloyd, 07 Nov 1923. Hereinafter cited as Michigan Marriages, 1868-1925.
  4. [S4199] "Find A Grave", online Find A Grave search page: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
  5. [S4484] Riverside Cemetery - Menominee, MI, online Riverside Cemetery - Menominee, MI. Hereinafter cited as Riverside Cemetery - Menominee, MI.
  6. [S4484] Riverside Cemetery - Menominee, MI, online Riverside Cemetery - Menominee, MI, http://www.cityofmenominée.org/index.php/component/docman/doc_download/132-records-n.

Dorothy Marian Wemple1

F, #15183, b. 28 December 1897, d. 1 December 1968
Father*Leonard Castle Wemple2
Mother*Ethel Coe2
Last Edited18 Nov 2012
     Dorothy was born on 28 December 1897 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USAG.3 Dorothy married Frank Croskill Lloyd before 1930.4,2,5 She died on 1 December 1968 in Ellison Bay, Door County, Wisconsin, USAG, at age 70.6
     She also went by the name of Doris.7

Family

Frank Croskill Lloyd b. 23 Jul 1888, d. 15 Oct 1954
Child

Citations

  1. [S604] Marshall Davies lloyd, Family of Marshall Davies Lloyd (n.p.: Gencircles Database, unknown publish date), Birth: 28 Dec 1897 in Chicago, IL; Death: 1 Dec 1968 in Ellison Bay, WI; Sex: F ; Father: Leonard Castle Wemple; Mother: Ethel Ann Coe; Dorothy Marian Wemple.
  2. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Rick Moffat, Birth: 28 Dec 1897 in Chicago, IL; Death: 1 Dec 1968 in Ellison Bay, WI; Sex: F ; Father: Leonard Castle Wemple; Mother: Ethel Ann Coe; Dorothy Marian Wemple. Hereinafter cited as "Marshall Davies Lloyd."
  3. [S604] Marshall Davies lloyd, Family of Marshall Davies Lloyd, Dorothy Marian Wemple.
  4. [S415] Rick Moffat, Assumption based upon birth/christening date of children.
  5. [S4199] Find A Grave memorial page , Find A Grave, Find A Grave search page; "A database submitted by individuals supposedly of cemetery interments, often from grave memorials or cemetery records and often supplemented by other information, generally without identification of the sources except when a tombstone photo is included."; cited as "Find A Grave., http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
  6. [S604] Marshall Davies lloyd, Family of Marshall Davies Lloyd.
  7. [S4199] "Find A Grave", online Find A Grave search page: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi Obituary of Frank Croskill Lloyd.
  8. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail to Rick Moffat, JOHN WEMPLE LLOYD, b. August 18, 1930, Beverly Hills, CA; Email Mar 16, 2003.
  9. [S541] California Birth Index, online California Birth Index - Rootsweb, Name: John Wemple Lloyd. Hereinafter cited as California Birth Index.
  10. [S4199] "Find A Grave", online Find A Grave search page: John Wemple Lloyd.

John Wemple Lloyd1,2,3

M, #15184, b. 18 August 1930, d. 15 July 2007
Father*Frank Croskill Lloyd4,3 b. 23 Jul 1888, d. 15 Oct 1954
Mother*Dorothy Marian Wemple4,5,3 b. 28 Dec 1897, d. 1 Dec 1968
Relationship3rd cousin of Richard Graeme Moffat
Last Edited15 Apr 2019
     John was born on 18 August 1930 in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles County, California, USAG.4,5,3 John married Nancy Bennett on 25 September 1971 in Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia, USAG.6,7 He died on 15 July 2007 at age 76.3,7
     The following information is extracted from his obituary. Survivor(s): Nancy Bennett Lloyd.7 SSGT John Wemple Lloyd was buried in Georgia National Cemetery, Canton, Cherokee County, Georgia, USAG.3,8

     In the obituary of Frank Croskill Lloyd who died 15 October 1954, his son, John W Lloyd of Sun Valley, was listed as a survivor.9
     See the footnotes below for a link to his on-line obituary that appeared in the newspaper the Atlanta Constitution published in Atlanta, Georgia, 18 July 2007 .7

Family

Nancy Bennett b. 18 Jul 1937, d. 9 Jul 2017
Marriage*John married Nancy Bennett on 25 September 1971 in Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia, USAG.6,7 

Citations

  1. [S604] Marshall Davies lloyd, Family of Marshall Davies Lloyd (n.p.: Gencircles Database, unknown publish date), Birth: Private; Death: Private; Sex: M ; Father: Frank Crosskil Lloyd; Mother: Dorothy Marian Wemple; John Wemple Lloyd.
  2. [S1654] Marshall Davies Lloyd - Obsolete Pages in Google Cache, online http://mlloyd.org/Gen/lloyd/mblphoto.htmMarshall Davies Lloyd - Obsolete Pages in Google Cache, John Wemple LLOYD
    Private - ____
    BIRTH: Private
    Father: Frank Crosskil LLOYD
    Mother: Dorothy Marian WEMPLE

    Family 1 : Francis Jean FICARRA
    EVENT: Private-Begin: Private
    +John Phillip LLOYD
    Family 2 : Nancy BENNETT
    EVENT: Private-Begin: Private. Hereinafter cited as Marshall Davies Lloyd.
  3. [S4199] Find A Grave memorial page , Find A Grave, Find A Grave search page; "A database submitted by individuals supposedly of cemetery interments, often from grave memorials or cemetery records and often supplemented by other information, generally without identification of the sources except when a tombstone photo is included."; cited as "Find A Grave., John Wemple Lloyd.
  4. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Rick Moffat, JOHN WEMPLE LLOYD, b. August 18, 1930, Beverly Hills, CA; Email Mar 16, 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Marshall Davies Lloyd."
  5. [S541] California Birth Index, online California Birth Index - Rootsweb, Name: John Wemple Lloyd. Hereinafter cited as California Birth Index.
  6. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail to Rick Moffat, He married NANCY BENNETT September 25, 1971 in Atlanta, GA; Email Mar 16, 2003.
  7. [S9465] Lloyd, John, The Atlanta Constitution, Atlanta, GA, Jul 18, 2007, Page D7, column 2 viewed at Newspapers.com,, Obituary: John W. Lloyd. Hereinafter cited as Atlanta Constitution.
  8. [S9466] Nancy Bennett Lloyd, Albright Funeral Home, Apex, NC, abt Jul 10, 2017 viewed at www.legacy.com,, Obituary: John W. Lloyd. Hereinafter cited as Albright Funeral Home.
  9. [S8504] Frank C. Lloyd, The Los Angeles Times (Main Edition), Los Angeles, CA, Oct 20, 1954, Page 44, column 3 viewed at Newspapers.com,, Obituary: Frank Croskill Lloyd. Hereinafter cited as Los Angeles Times.

Nancy Bennett1,2,3

F, #15187, b. 18 July 1937, d. 9 July 2017
Last Edited6 Apr 2019
     Nancy was born on 18 July 1937 in Chatanuga (Chattanooga?), Hamilton County, Tennessee, USAG.1,3 Nancy married John Wemple Lloyd on 25 September 1971 in Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia, USAG.4,5 She died on 9 July 2017 at age 79.3 Nancy Bennett Lloyd was buried on 18 July 2017 in Georgia National Cemetery, Canton, Cherokee County, Georgia, USAG.6,3

     Nancy Bennett was also known as Nancy Bennett Lloyd.5
     In the obituary of John W Lloyd who died 15 July 2007, his wife, Nancy Bennett Lloyd was listed as a survivor.5
     See the footnotes below for a link to her on-line obituary that appeared in her memorial page on the web site of Albright Funeral Home published in Apex, North Carolina, circa 10 July 2017 .3

Family

John Wemple Lloyd b. 18 Aug 1930, d. 15 Jul 2007
Marriage*Nancy married John Wemple Lloyd on 25 September 1971 in Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia, USAG.4,5 

Citations

  1. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Rick Moffat, NANCY BENNETT...was born July 18, 1937 in Chatanuga, TN; Email Mar 16, 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Marshall Davies Lloyd."
  2. [S1654] Marshall Davies Lloyd - Obsolete Pages in Google Cache, online http://mlloyd.org/Gen/lloyd/mblphoto.htmMarshall Davies Lloyd - Obsolete Pages in Google Cache. Hereinafter cited as Marshall Davies Lloyd.
  3. [S9466] Nancy Bennett Lloyd, Albright Funeral Home, Apex, NC, abt Jul 10, 2017 viewed at www.legacy.com,, Obituary: Nancy Bennett Lloyd. Hereinafter cited as Albright Funeral Home.
  4. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail to Rick Moffat, He married NANCY BENNETT September 25, 1971 in Atlanta, GA; Email Mar 16, 2003.
  5. [S9465] Lloyd, John, The Atlanta Constitution, Atlanta, GA, Jul 18, 2007, Page D7, column 2 viewed at Newspapers.com,, Obituary: John W. Lloyd. Hereinafter cited as Atlanta Constitution.
  6. [S4199] Find A Grave memorial page , Find A Grave, Find A Grave search page; "A database submitted by individuals supposedly of cemetery interments, often from grave memorials or cemetery records and often supplemented by other information, generally without identification of the sources except when a tombstone photo is included."; cited as "Find A Grave., Nancy Bennett Lloyd
    Grave marker transcription:
    In memory of Nancy Bennett Lloyd Jul 18, 1937 - Jul 9, 2017 Loving spouse.

Emma Croskill1

F, #15188, b. circa 16 March 1861, d. before 12 April 1861
Father*Benjamin Crosskill2 b. c 1817, d. 2 Feb 1870
Mother*Mary Ann White2 b. 20 May 1827, d. 5 Apr 1911
Relationship1st cousin 2 times removed of Richard Graeme Moffat
Last Edited28 Feb 2018
     Emma was born circa 16 March 1861 in Lincolnshire, EnglandG.3 She died before 12 April 1861 in Lincolnshire, EnglandG.2
     She was Baptised/Christened on 16 March 1861 in Grimoldby, Lincolnshire, EnglandG.4
     The following biographical information is from my personal research, February 2018:
I assume that Benjamin and Mary Ann had two children named Emma. Several sources have found evidence of a baptism record showing Emma was born in March 1861, but she is not listed in the 1861 census which was enumerated on April 12th. Jean Rhiness reports that other evidence indicates that Emma considered herself to be 2 years younger that the 1861 date would indicate. This is consistent with the 1871 census where Emma is shown as being 9 years old.

Until I find other evidence, I will assume that the first Emma died prior to April 12, 1861.

The second was born in about 1863.

Marshall Davies Lloyd wrote on March 16, 2003:
Just hearsay, but I know that Emma stayed in Meaford and when my folks would visit they would see her and always thought she was quite wronged. Marshall went on to marry Margaret Isadora "Dora" and Henrietta (Hammer) Pollen "Polly." Dora successfully sued the estate (NYT article) and Polly married again after MB died (a man named Merrill). She is buried in the Mausoleum in Menominee.

In the 1901 Census, Emma Lloyd is boarding with the James Thompson family. She is enumerated as "married."5,6,7

Citations

  1. [S192] Rick Moffat, Assumption, I assume that Benjamin and Mary Ann had two children named Emma. Several sources have found evidence of a baptism record showing Emma was born in March 1861, but she is not listed in the 1861 census which was enumerated on April 12th. Jean Rhiness reports that other evidence indicates that Emma considered herself to be 2 years younger that the 1861 date would indicate. This is consistent with the 1871 census where Emma is shown as being 9 years old.
  2. [S192] Rick Moffat, Assumption, Not enumerated in 1861 census. The Emma Crosskill that emigrated with this family claimed to have been born in 1862.
  3. [S691] Rick Moffat, Assumption based upon birth or baptism/christening date.
  4. [S328] Valerie Bell, "Bell, Valerie (Croskell)," e-mail message from email address withheld for privacy (UK) to Rick Moffat, Oct 1999, ...and I have only the baptism of two of Benjamins children -- Emma baptised 16th March 1861 Grimoldby...Email Oct 7, 1999. Hereinafter cited as "Croskell Family Info."
  5. [S2] Personal knowledge/research of Rick Moffat (Mesa, AZ 85207).
  6. [S604] Marshall Davies lloyd, Family of Marshall Davies Lloyd (n.p.: Gencircles Database, unknown publish date).
  7. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Rick Moffat. Hereinafter cited as "Marshall Davies Lloyd."

Rachel Lillian Grasby1,2

F, #15189, b. 16 April 1903
Father*Thomas Grasby1 b. bt 1851 - 1884, d. 1913
Mother*Janet Souster1,2 b. c 1877, d. 6 May 1951
Last Edited12 May 2019
     Rachel was born on 16 April 1903 in RM of Odanah, Manitoba, CanadaG.1,2
     In the obituary of Wallace Franklin Grasby who died 4 February 1969, his sister, Rachel was listed as predeceased.3
     In the obituary of Albert Grasby who died 23 August 1983, his sister, Rachel Grasby was listed as predeceased.4

Citations

  1. [S7] Asquith Historical Society, compiler, Asquith Record, The (Box 160, Asquith SK, S0K 0J0: The Asquith and District Historical Society, 1982), Page 141 - Thomas and Janet Grasby. Hereinafter cited as Asquith Record.
  2. [S868] Manitoba Vital Statistics Agency, Manitoba Vital Statistics (Winnipeg, MB: Vital Statistics Agency), Manitoba Vital Statistics Agency - Genealogy Search page, Last Name: GRASBY
    Given Names: RACHEL LILLIAN. Hereinafter cited as Manitoba Vital Statistics.
  3. [S9604] Deaths: Grasby, Saskatoon Star-Phoenix, Saskatoon, SK, Feb 5, 1969, Page 39, column 6 viewed at Newspapers.com,, Obituary: Wallace Franklin Grasby. Hereinafter cited as StarPhoenix.
  4. [S9550] Deaths: Grasby, Saskatoon Star-Phoenix, Saskatoon, SK, Aug 26, 1983, Page 29, column 4 viewed at Newspapers.com,, Obituary: Albert Grasby. Hereinafter cited as StarPhoenix.

Leopold P Jackman1,2

M, #15190, b. circa 1856
Last Edited30 Oct 2007
     Leopold was born circa 1856 in GermanyG.2 Leopold married Mary (?) before 1894.2,3
     Leopold P Jackman appeared on the 1920 U.S. Federal Census of Menominee, Menominee County, Michigan, at Menominee Ward I, enumerated January 1920, enmerated as an accountant. His daughter, Elizabeth Lloyd and her daughter Mary were living in this household at the time of the census. She was enumerated as a widow.2

Family

Mary (?) b. c 1859
Child

Citations

  1. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Rick Moffat, Elizabeth Jackman, daughter of Leopold Jackman and Mary...; Email - March 16, 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Marshall Davies Lloyd."
  2. [S1653] Leopold P Jackman, Jan 1920 Household Census, Provo, Utah, USA, Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 266, Ancestry.com Roll T625_785; Image: 151., Household Members: Name Age
    Leopold P Jackman 64
    Mary Jackman 61
    Elizabeth Lloyd 26
    Mary Lloyd 4.
  3. [S415] Rick Moffat, Assumption based upon birth/christening date of children.
  4. [S604] Marshall Davies lloyd, Family of Marshall Davies Lloyd (n.p.: Gencircles Database, unknown publish date), Ibid; Elizabeth Jackman.

Mary (?)1,2

F, #15191, b. circa 1859
Last Edited30 Oct 2007
     Mary was born circa 1859 in Wisconsin, USAG.2 Mary married Leopold P Jackman before 1894.2,3
     Mary (?) appeared on the 1920 U.S. Federal Census of Menominee, Menominee County, Michigan, in the household of Leopold P Jackman.2

Family

Leopold P Jackman b. c 1856
Child

Citations

  1. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Rick Moffat, Elizabeth Jackman, daughter of Leopold Jackman and Mary...; Email Mar 16, 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Marshall Davies Lloyd."
  2. [S1653] Leopold P Jackman, Jan 1920 Household Census, Provo, Utah, USA, Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 266, Ancestry.com Roll T625_785; Image: 151., Household Members: Name Age
    Leopold P Jackman 64
    Mary Jackman 61
    Elizabeth Lloyd 26
    Mary Lloyd 4.
  3. [S415] Rick Moffat, Assumption based upon birth/christening date of children.
  4. [S604] Marshall Davies lloyd, Family of Marshall Davies Lloyd (n.p.: Gencircles Database, unknown publish date), Ibid; Elizabeth Jackman.

Leonard Castle Wemple1

M, #15192
Last Edited18 Nov 2012
     Leonard married Ethel Coe.1

Family

Ethel Coe
Child

Citations

  1. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Rick Moffat, Dorothy Marian Wemple, daughter of Leonard Wemple and Ethel Coe...; Email Mar 16, 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Marshall Davies Lloyd."
  2. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail to Rick Moffat, Birth: 28 Dec 1897 in Chicago, IL; Death: 1 Dec 1968 in Ellison Bay, WI; Sex: F ; Father: Leonard Castle Wemple; Mother: Ethel Ann Coe; Dorothy Marian Wemple.

Ludwick Gietz1,2,3

M, #15193, b. 26 November 1828, d. 13 January 1885
Father*John Gietz4 b. b 1813
Mother*Caroline Peiffer b. b 1813; Dennis Gienow mentions Ludwig Goetz was a brother-in-law of a Gienow (I assume John H B) whose son's were John and Dan. This would indicate that John H B's wife, Wilhelmina was his sister, making John Gietz and Caroline Peiffer his parents.4
Last Edited12 Jul 2018
     Ludwick was born on 26 November 1828 in Bretchen Gates, GermanyG.1,5 Alternatively, he was born circa 1830 in GermanyG age 51 in 1881 census.6 Ludwick married Margaret Genoe before 1860.7,8 Ludwick married Augusta Wotte.9,1,6 He died on 13 January 1885 in Hagarty Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, CanadaG, at age 56 Ontario Death Registration 015313.10 The informant on his death registration was John Knight.10 Ludwick Gietz was buried in Emmanuel (aka Immanuel) Baptist Cemetery, Killaloe-Hagarty-Richards Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, CanadaG,1
or in 1884 according to his gravemarker.1,5
      ; and, Louey Yetts his daughter Maggie's marriage registration.11 His name was also recorded as Ludwig Goetz according to Ralph Gienow.5
     Louey Yetts was recorded as father of the bride at the marriage of Carl Zummack and Margaret Gietz on 2 April 1885.11 The late Louis Getzwas recorded as the bride's father at the marriage of Herman Kuhl and Margaret Zummach on 28 February 1899.12 In the death registration of Margaret Gietz who died on 21 February 1928, Louis Gietz was identified as her father.13

Census Data

     Ludwick Gezets and Agusta appeared on the 1881 Canadian Census of Hagarty & Jones Twps., Renfrew County, Ontario, enumerated 4 April 1881. Ludwick was Enumerated as a farmer and a Lutheran. Their children Mary, Margrett, John and Ernast were listed as living with them.6

Family 1

Margaret Genoe
Marriage*Ludwick married Margaret Genoe before 1860.7,8 
Child

Family 2

Augusta Wotte b. 7 Feb 1830, d. 15 Aug 1915
Marriage*Ludwick married Augusta Wotte.9,1,6 
Children

Citations

  1. [S570] Canadian Gravemarker Gallery , Canadian Gravemarker Gallery (See Canada Gen Web's Cemetery Project), Search page for Canada Gen Web's Cemetery Project; "After July 31, 2017, links will be broken. Search Canada GenWEB since content is being indexed and moved to this site. I will replace links as time permits"; cited as "Canadian Gravemarker Gallery., Ludwick Gietz & Augusta Wotte
    Transcription:
    Ludwick Gietz     1828 - 1884
    His Wife Augusta Wotte     1830 - 1917.
  2. [S1443] Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913, online Ontario, Canada Births, Name: Ernest Benjamin Sietz (Gietz). Hereinafter cited as ON Births 1869-1913.
  3. [S1444] Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1826-1936 (Publisher: Archives of Ontario, Toronto), Archives of Ontario, Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935; "Ontario, Canada, Select Marriages. Archives of Ontario, Toronto. This database includes images of the registrations. In some cases, alternative images in FamilySearch prvide additional information"; cited as "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936., Ernst Gietz & Catherina Baetz.
  4. [S2210] Dennis Gienow, "Goetz Family Tree", circa 2009 (Ontario). Courtesy of Ralph Gienow, Edmonton, p 1 - mentions Ludwig was a brother-in-law of a Gienow (John H B) whose son's were john and Dan. This would indicate that John H B's wife, Wilhelmina was his sister, making John Gietz and Caroline Peiffer his parents.. Hereinafter cited as "Goetz Family Tree."
  5. [S2210] Dennis Gienow, "Goetz Family Tree", courtesy of Ralph Gienow, Edmonton, p 1.
  6. [S6540] Ludwick Gezets household, Apr 4, 1881 Canada census, Provo, Utah, USA, Hagarty & Jones, Renfrew South, Ontario; Page: 18; Family: 69, Ancestry.com Roll: C-13234.
  7. [S400] Olga Lewis, compiler, Renfrew County Marriages 1884 (Renfrew, Ontario: Olga Lewis, Feb 1999), Beker/Yelts --...daughter of Louis Yelts and Margaret Genoe...; 1884 - Page 1, # 6 Registration Number 010429. Hereinafter cited as RCM 1884.
  8. [S1444] "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936", online Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935: A Beker & Mary Ann Yetts.
  9. [S192] Rick Moffat, Assumption, Based upon marriage records ,Mary and Margaret had different mothers, Margaret Genoe and Auguste Genoe respectively. Assume Louis/Ludwick married Auguste some time after the birth of Mary/Maryann.
  10. [S1442] Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946 (Publisher: Archives of Ontario), Ancestry.com, Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946; "This database is an index (with images) to over 2 million deaths that were registered in Ontario from 1869 to 1938, and 1943 to 1946. The database also includes deaths of Ontario military personnel overseas from 1939-1947"; cited as "ON Deaths, 1869-1946., Name: Louis Goetz - recorded as female, but other data indicates this could be Ludwig. Reported as farmer and a Baptist, born in Welka, Germany.
  11. [S1444] "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936", online Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935: Carl Zummack & Maggie Yetts. The year of marriage is either 1883 or 1885. The last digit has been over-written and is open to interpretation. However, they are listed as witnesses on the next marriage in 1884, and do not have the same surname, so they must have married in 1885. In addition, their ages are both given as 21, consistent with an 1885 marriage.
  12. [S1444] "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936", online Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935: Margaret Zummach & Herman Kuhl.
  13. [S1442] "ON Deaths, 1869-1946", online Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946: Name: Mrs Margaret Kuehl.
  14. [S400] Olga Lewis, RCM 1884, Beker/Yelts --; 1884 - Page 1, # 6 Registration Number 010429.
  15. [S1445] Ontario Vital Statistics Project - Marriages, online Ontario Vital Statistics Project - Marriages, http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/renf84.htm - 10429-85 (Renfrew Co., 1884). Hereinafter cited as ON Vital Statistics Project.
  16. [S88] The Rick Schroeder Family Home Page , Genealogy.com (formerly Family Tree Maker) User Trees, The Rick Schroeder Family Home Page; "While this database does not contain source references, I have found it a reliable guide for further Renfrew County, ON research. Downloaded in April 2001, with follow up by email messages. He also provided genealogy reports as early as Aug 1998"; cited as "Rick Schroeder Family., MARGARET ZUMMACH was born ABT 25 Feb 1863 in Osceola, Ontario, and died ABT 21 Feb 1928 in Killaloe, Ontario.

Augusta Wotte1,2

F, #15194, b. 7 February 1830, d. 15 August 1915
Last Edited10 May 2018
     Augusta was born on 7 February 1830 in GermanyG according to the 1901 census.2,3,4 Alternatively, she was born on 7 November 18303 or circa March 1831 in GermanyG age 50 in 1881 census and died at the age of 84 years, 5 months.5,6 Augusta married Ludwick Gietz.7,2,6 She died on 15 August 1915 in Grattan Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, CanadaG, at age 85 according to Ontario Death Registration 027770.5 Alternatively, she died in 1917 according to her gravemarker.2,3 Augusta Wotte was buried in Emmanuel (aka Immanuel) Baptist Cemetery, Killaloe-Hagarty-Richards Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, CanadaG.2

     Her name was also recorded as August Emilie Wuttke according to Ralph Gienow3 ; and, Augusta Wothea according to Mary Ann's declaration regarding the birth of her younger brother, Ernest Benjamin Gietz.8
     Auguste Genoe was recorded as mother of the bride at the marriage of Carl Zummack and Margaret Gietz on 2 April 1885.9
     Augusta Getz was recorded as mother of the bride at the marriage of Herman Kuhl and Margaret Zummach on 28 February 1899.10 In the death registration of Margaret Gietz who died on 21 February 1928, Augusta Voth was identified as her mother.11
     25 February 2005 Research notes:
Research required to determine if Margaret and Auguste Genoe were related to Gienow family. Spelling of this surname varied from source to source. Also, were they two individuals, or were they recorded with differing given names between marriage registrations of daughters Mary and Margaret?12

Census Data

     Ludwick Gezets and Agusta appeared on the 1881 Canadian Census of Hagarty & Jones Twps., Renfrew County, Ontario, enumerated 4 April 1881. Ludwick was Enumerated as a farmer and a Lutheran. Their children Mary, Margrett, John and Ernast were listed as living with them.6
     Amelia A appeared on the 1901 Canadian Census of Hagarty Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, in the household of John Getz and Edith Getz.4

Family

Ludwick Gietz b. 26 Nov 1828, d. 13 Jan 1885
Marriage*Augusta married Ludwick Gietz.7,2,6 
Children

Citations

  1. On her gravemarker.
  2. [S570] Canadian Gravemarker Gallery , Canadian Gravemarker Gallery (See Canada Gen Web's Cemetery Project), Search page for Canada Gen Web's Cemetery Project; "After July 31, 2017, links will be broken. Search Canada GenWEB since content is being indexed and moved to this site. I will replace links as time permits"; cited as "Canadian Gravemarker Gallery., Ludwick Gietz & Augusta Wotte
    Transcription:
    Ludwick Gietz     1828 - 1884
    His Wife Augusta Wotte     1830 - 1917.
  3. [S2210] Dennis Gienow, "Goetz Family Tree", circa 2009 (Ontario). Courtesy of Ralph Gienow, Edmonton, p 1. Hereinafter cited as "Goetz Family Tree."
  4. [S6637] John Getz household, Mar 31, 1901 Canada census, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, Hagarty, Sherwood & Jones; Renfrew; Ontario; Page:15; Family: 118, Library and Archives Canada (LAC) Roll: T-6494.
  5. [S1442] Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946 (Publisher: Archives of Ontario), Ancestry.com, Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946; "This database is an index (with images) to over 2 million deaths that were registered in Ontario from 1869 to 1938, and 1943 to 1946. The database also includes deaths of Ontario military personnel overseas from 1939-1947"; cited as "ON Deaths, 1869-1946., Name: Agusta Gietz.
  6. [S6540] Ludwick Gezets household, Apr 4, 1881 Canada census, Provo, Utah, USA, Hagarty & Jones, Renfrew South, Ontario; Page: 18; Family: 69, Ancestry.com Roll: C-13234.
  7. [S192] Rick Moffat, Assumption, Based upon marriage records ,Mary and Margaret had different mothers, Margaret Genoe and Auguste Genoe respectively. Assume Louis/Ludwick married Auguste some time after the birth of Mary/Maryann.
  8. [S1443] Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913, online Ontario, Canada Births, Name: Ernest Benjamin Sietz (Gietz). Hereinafter cited as ON Births 1869-1913.
  9. [S1444] Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1826-1936 (Publisher: Archives of Ontario, Toronto), Archives of Ontario, Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935; "Ontario, Canada, Select Marriages. Archives of Ontario, Toronto. This database includes images of the registrations. In some cases, alternative images in FamilySearch prvide additional information"; cited as "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936., Carl Zummack & Maggie Yetts. The year of marriage is either 1883 or 1885. The last digit has been over-written and is open to interpretation. However, they are listed as witnesses on the next marriage in 1884, and do not have the same surname, so they must have married in 1885. In addition, their ages are both given as 21, consistent with an 1885 marriage.
  10. [S1444] "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936", online Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935: Margaret Zummach & Herman Kuhl.
  11. [S1442] "ON Deaths, 1869-1946", online Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946: Name: Mrs Margaret Kuehl.
  12. [S2] Personal knowledge/research of Rick Moffat (Mesa, AZ 85207).
  13. [S88] The Rick Schroeder Family Home Page , Genealogy.com (formerly Family Tree Maker) User Trees, The Rick Schroeder Family Home Page; "While this database does not contain source references, I have found it a reliable guide for further Renfrew County, ON research. Downloaded in April 2001, with follow up by email messages. He also provided genealogy reports as early as Aug 1998"; cited as "Rick Schroeder Family., MARGARET ZUMMACH was born ABT 25 Feb 1863 in Osceola, Ontario, and died ABT 21 Feb 1928 in Killaloe, Ontario.
  14. [S1444] "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936", online Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935: Ernst Gietz & Catherina Baetz.

Ann Burgess1,2

F, #15195, b. circa 1849
Father*William Burgess1
Mother*Jane Taylor1
Last Edited5 Nov 2009

Family

John Alexander Boland b. c 1845

Citations

  1. [S93] Olga Lewis, compiler, Renfrew County Marriages - Volume 1 - 1869-1875 (Renfrew, Ontario: Olga Lewis, June 1996), 1872 -- Page 26, # 156. Hereinafter cited as RCM 1869-1875.
  2. [S262] Genealogical Research Library (Subscription Required), online Genealogical Research Library (Subscription Required), John A Boland & Ann Burgess. Hereinafter cited as Genealogical Research Library.

William Burgess1

M, #15196
Last Edited5 Nov 2009
     William married Jane Taylor before 1849.1,2

Family

Jane Taylor
Child

Citations

  1. [S93] Olga Lewis, compiler, Renfrew County Marriages - Volume 1 - 1869-1875 (Renfrew, Ontario: Olga Lewis, June 1996), 1872 -- Page 26, # 156. Hereinafter cited as RCM 1869-1875.
  2. [S415] Rick Moffat, Assumption based upon birth/christening date of children.

John Joseph Gietz1,2

M, #15197, b. 16 January 1869, d. 1953
Father*Ludwick Gietz2,3 b. 26 Nov 1828, d. 13 Jan 1885
Mother*Augusta Wotte2,4,3 b. 7 Feb 1830, d. 15 Aug 1915
Last Edited15 Jun 2019
     John was born on 16 January 1869 in Ontario, CanadaG.2,3,4 John married Edith Bork in 1890.1,5,2,4 He died in 1953 in Saskatchewan, CanadaG.5
     His name was also recorded as John Yetts.6      He also went by the name of Jack.2 John Yetts of Hagarty Twp., the bride's brother, was listed as a witness to the marriage of Carl Zummack and Margaret Gietz on 2 April 1885.7 John Yetts was listed as a witness to the marriage of John Bladow and Hattie Rista on 26 June 1890.8
     John and his son Jack went out to Saskatchewan in the spring of 1910. Edith and the rest of the children followed by train in July, with the livestock and family possessions. They settled near Hazlet.5,2
     In the obituary of Mary Ann Becker who died 16 December 1944, her brother, John Gietz of Saskatchewan, was listed as a survivor.9

Census Data

     John Gezets appeared on the 1881 Canadian Census of Hagarty & Jones Twps., Renfrew County, Ontario in the household of his parents, Ludwick Gezets and Agusta Gezets.3
     John Getz and Edith appeared on the 1901 Canadian Census of Hagarty Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, enumerated 31 March 1901. John was enumerated as a Baptist and a Farmer. Their children John L, Charlie E and Delia A were listed as living with them. As was his widowed mother, Amelia A Getz.4

Family

Edith Bork b. 24 Jul 1870, d. Jun 1951
Marriage*John married Edith Bork in 1890.1,5,2,4 
Children

Citations

  1. [S1443] Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913, online Ontario, Canada Births, Name: John Louis Gietz. Hereinafter cited as ON Births 1869-1913.
  2. [S2210] Dennis Gienow, "Goetz Family Tree", circa 2009 (Ontario). Courtesy of Ralph Gienow, Edmonton, p 1. Hereinafter cited as "Goetz Family Tree."
  3. [S6540] Ludwick Gezets household, Apr 4, 1881 Canada census, Provo, Utah, USA, Hagarty & Jones, Renfrew South, Ontario; Page: 18; Family: 69, Ancestry.com Roll: C-13234.
  4. [S6637] John Getz household, Mar 31, 1901 Canada census, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, Hagarty, Sherwood & Jones; Renfrew; Ontario; Page:15; Family: 118, Library and Archives Canada (LAC) Roll: T-6494.
  5. [S1496] Hazlet Historical Society, Hazlet & Its Heritage - Volume II (Hazlet, Sask.: Hazlet Historical Society, 1987), Page 1088 - 1090. Hereinafter cited as Hazlet & Its Heritage.
  6. [S1445] Ontario Vital Statistics Project - Marriages, online Ontario Vital Statistics Project - Marriages, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/renfr85.htm
    10428-85. Hereinafter cited as ON Vital Statistics Project.
  7. [S1444] Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1826-1936 (Publisher: Archives of Ontario, Toronto), Archives of Ontario, Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935; "Ontario, Canada, Select Marriages. Archives of Ontario, Toronto. This database includes images of the registrations. In some cases, alternative images in FamilySearch prvide additional information"; cited as "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936., Carl Zummack & Maggie Yetts. The year of marriage is either 1883 or 1885. The last digit has been over-written and is open to interpretation. However, they are listed as witnesses on the next marriage in 1884, and do not have the same surname, so they must have married in 1885. In addition, their ages are both given as 21, consistent with an 1885 marriage.
  8. [S1444] "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936", online Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935: John Bladow & Hattie Rista.
  9. [S9757] Obituaries: Mrs. Mary Becker, The Windsor Star, Windsor, Ontario, Dec 18, 1944, Page 16, column 5 viewed at Newspapers.com,, Obituary: Mary Becker née Gietz. Hereinafter cited as Windsor Star.
  10. [S4440] John Getz, Death Registration 1975-09-013707 (5 Sep 1975), Royal BC Museum - Genealogy Collection, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada, [http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/images/… Death Registration Image -John Getz]

    The informant was not related to John. He gave John's father's name as John Morden, but Morden was his wife's maiden name. The informant did not know his mother's name.. Hereinafter cited as BC Death Registration - Getz, J.
  11. [S1443] ON Births 1869-1913, online Ontario, Canada Births, Name: Delia Ann Gietz.
  12. [S1443] ON Births 1869-1913, online Ontario, Canada Births, Name: Edith Rebecca Gietz.
  13. [S1443] ON Births 1869-1913, online Ontario, Canada Births, Name: Mildred Isabell Gietz.
  14. [S2372] Hazlet Historical Society, Hazlet & Its Heritage - Volume I (Hazlet, Sask.: Hazlet Historical Society, 1987), Page 610ff - Gus and Mildred Bang by Fern Bang. Hereinafter cited as Hazlet & Its Heritage.

Ernest Benjamin Gietz1,2,3,4

M, #15198, b. 14 November 1872, d. 1948
Father*Ludwick Gietz2,5,6,7 b. 26 Nov 1828, d. 13 Jan 1885
Mother*Augusta Wotte5,6,7 b. 7 Feb 1830, d. 15 Aug 1915
Last Edited15 Jun 2019
     Ernest was born on 14 November 1872 in Hagarty Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, CanadaG, according to Ontario Birth Registration 901691.

He was born in Comden (Cobden?), ON according to Ralph Gienow.2,5,8,7 Ernst married Catherina Baetz on 30 July 1891 in Golden Lake, Wilberforce Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, CanadaG, according to Ontario Marriage Registration 010470. He gave his occupation as a shoemaker.4,5,3,6,8 A delayed birth registration for Ernest Benjamin Gietz was made on 18 July 1934 at Killaloe in Hagarty Twp., Renfrew County, certified by his sister Mary Ann Becker. She declared that both of their parents were dead, that she was ten when he was born, and that she was present in the house at that time. She signed with her mark, so could not write.2 He died in 1948.4 Ernest Benjamin Gietz was buried in Emmanuel (aka Immanuel) Baptist Cemetery, Killaloe-Hagarty-Richards Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, CanadaG.4

     His name was also recorded as Ernest Yetts (registered witness at 1890 Zimmerman/Becker marriage.)9,10 He was listed as a witness to the marriage of Robert Frank Zimmerman and Minnie Becker on 28 May 1890 in Hagarty Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, CanadaG.11,10 Ernest Benjamin Gietz was listed as a witness to the marriage of Mary McMillan and Dan D Dickson on 13 September 1895 in Hagarty Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, CanadaG.12

The following biographical fact was included:
He was a diabetic.6
Ernest Getz of Killaloe Station was the informant on the death registration of his nephew, John Frederick Becker who died on 2 March 1923.13 Ernest Getz was the informant on the death registration of his wife, Catherina Baetz who died on 7 August 1931.14
     In the obituary of Mary Ann Becker who died 16 December 1944, her brother, Ernest Gietz of Killaloe, was listed as a survivor.15

Census Data

     Ernast Gezets appeared on the 1881 Canadian Census of Hagarty & Jones Twps., Renfrew County, Ontario in the household of his parents, Ludwick Gezets and Agusta Gezets.7
     Ernest Getz and Kate A appeared on the 1901 Canadian Census of Hagarty Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, enumerated 31 March 1901. Ernest was enumerated as a shoemaker and a "Babtist". Their children Louis E, Annie M, Elza and Girtie were listed as living with them.8

Family

Catherina Baetz b. 16 May 1869, d. 7 Aug 1931
Marriage*Ernst married Catherina Baetz on 30 July 1891 in Golden Lake, Wilberforce Twp., Renfrew County, Ontario, CanadaG, according to Ontario Marriage Registration 010470. He gave his occupation as a shoemaker.4,5,3,6,8 
Children

Citations

  1. In 1924 he signed his middle name as Benjamine.
  2. [S1443] Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913, online Ontario, Canada Births, Name: Ernest Benjamin Sietz (Gietz). Hereinafter cited as ON Births 1869-1913.
  3. [S1443] ON Births 1869-1913, online Ontario, Canada Births, Name: Ludwick Ernest Gietz.
  4. [S570] Canadian Gravemarker Gallery , Canadian Gravemarker Gallery (See Canada Gen Web's Cemetery Project), Search page for Canada Gen Web's Cemetery Project; "After July 31, 2017, links will be broken. Search Canada GenWEB since content is being indexed and moved to this site. I will replace links as time permits"; cited as "Canadian Gravemarker Gallery., http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~murrayp/…
  5. [S1444] Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1826-1936 (Publisher: Archives of Ontario, Toronto), Archives of Ontario, Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935; "Ontario, Canada, Select Marriages. Archives of Ontario, Toronto. This database includes images of the registrations. In some cases, alternative images in FamilySearch prvide additional information"; cited as "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936., Ernst Gietz & Catherina Baetz.
  6. [S2210] Dennis Gienow, "Goetz Family Tree", circa 2009 (Ontario). Courtesy of Ralph Gienow, Edmonton, p 1. Hereinafter cited as "Goetz Family Tree."
  7. [S6540] Ludwick Gezets household, Apr 4, 1881 Canada census, Provo, Utah, USA, Hagarty & Jones, Renfrew South, Ontario; Page: 18; Family: 69, Ancestry.com Roll: C-13234.
  8. [S2443] Ernest Getz household, Mar 31, 1901 Canada census, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, Hagarty, Sherwood & Jone, Renfrew South, Ontario; Page: 1; Family: 0, Library and Archives Canada (LAC) Film: T-6494.
  9. [S553] Olga Lewis, compiler, Renfrew County Marriages 1890 (Renfrew, Ontario, Canada: Olga Lewis, Jan 2001), Page 8, 42 ZIMMERMAN/BECKER. Hereinafter cited as RCM 1890.
  10. [S1444] "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936", online Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935: Minnie Becker & Robert Frank Zimmerman.
  11. [S553] Olga Lewis, RCM 1890, 1890 - Page 8 # 42 Registration Number 010597.
  12. [S1445] Ontario Vital Statistics Project - Marriages, online Ontario Vital Statistics Project - Marriages, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/renf95.htm
    10685-95 (Renfrew Co). Hereinafter cited as ON Vital Statistics Project.
  13. [S1442] Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946 (Publisher: Archives of Ontario), Ancestry.com, Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946; "This database is an index (with images) to over 2 million deaths that were registered in Ontario from 1869 to 1938, and 1943 to 1946. The database also includes deaths of Ontario military personnel overseas from 1939-1947"; cited as "ON Deaths, 1869-1946., Name: John Frederick Becker.
  14. [S1442] "ON Deaths, 1869-1946", online Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946: Name: Mrs Ernest Getz - Catherine.
  15. [S9757] Obituaries: Mrs. Mary Becker, The Windsor Star, Windsor, Ontario, Dec 18, 1944, Page 16, column 5 viewed at Newspapers.com,, Obituary: Mary Becker née Gietz. Hereinafter cited as Windsor Star.
  16. [S2210] Dennis Gienow, "Goetz Family Tree", courtesy of Ralph Gienow, Edmonton, p 2.
  17. [S1444] "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936", online Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935: Lewis Earnest Gietz & Flossie Velzora Bell.
  18. [S1444] "Ontario Marriages, 1826-1936", online Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1785-1935: Anna Gietz & Emil J Wilke.

Ethel Coe1

F, #15199
Last Edited18 Nov 2012
     Ethel married Leonard Castle Wemple.2

Family

Leonard Castle Wemple
Child

Citations

  1. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Rick Moffat, Dorothy Marian Wemple, daughter of Leonard Wemple and Ethel Coe...; Mar 16, 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Marshall Davies Lloyd."
  2. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail to Rick Moffat, Dorothy Marian Wemple, daughter of Leonard Wemple and Ethel Coe...; Email Mar 16, 2003.
  3. [S606] Marshall Davies Lloyd, "Marshall Davies Lloyd," e-mail to Rick Moffat, Birth: 28 Dec 1897 in Chicago, IL; Death: 1 Dec 1968 in Ellison Bay, WI; Sex: F ; Father: Leonard Castle Wemple; Mother: Ethel Ann Coe; Dorothy Marian Wemple.